Vanessa Tait, fotografiada por Gareth Ewan Jones, 2015.
Es el título de una entrevista que fue publicada el 23 de marzo de 2015 en El País. El autor, un tal Jacinto Antón, le preguntó a Vanessa Tait, bisnieta de Alice Liddell, por la relación de Lewis Carroll con su famosa antepasada.
Yo asistí a una entrevista
realizada a Vanessa Tait el sábado 21 de marzo, pero no estoy segura de que
ésta sea la misma. No recuerdo unas preguntas tan parciales, tan retorcidas.
Leyendo este artículo tengo la impresión de que el autor ya tenía dictada su
propia sentencia sobre Carroll e intentaba que Vanessa Tait
"admitiera" la culpabilidad del reverendo Dodgson. No era una
maravilla; el título ya nos indica cuál es la muy sesgada visión del
entrevistador. Las preguntas están bien
elegidas: la "verdadera" relación de Carroll con Alice Liddell, el
consumo de sustancias estupefacientes, su afición a fotografiar niñas desnudas. Tal vez lo adecuado habría sido preguntarle a
Vanessa Tait por su libro, pero aparentemente no se le ocurrió al autor de la
entrevista.
Aquí está
el artículo completo (el que se publicó en el formato en papel estaba
recortado).
This is a self-made translation of the article published in the Spanish newspaper El País on March the 24th, 2015. The writer, a Jacinto Antón, interviews Vanessa Tait on Lewis Carroll and his relationship with Vanessa's ancestor, Alice Liddell. I am not sure whether this interview is the same that the one I attended, or a different one made in private rather than with an audience. Anyway, I have the feeling that the interviewer has his own opinion on Carroll and tries to make Vanessa Tait "admit" that he used drugs to write Alice in Wonderland or was a paedophile for taking pictures of children in the nude.
You can read the
original article here. I apologize for my raw translation, but I have done
my best to be true to the Spanish text. I am preparing my own notes from the
interview that I watched, and, since I took them in English, they should be
more accurate.
"LEWIS
CARROLL WAS NOT WONDERFUL.
Vanessa Tait,
grand-granddaughter of the little girl who inspired the character of “Alice”,
who is going to publish a novel about the relationship between her ancestor and
Carroll, states that the writer had a “very weird” side.
There is not any
White Rabbit that is late, neither a Mad Hatter nor Cheshire Cat around, but
there she is, sitting and holding a cup of tea, Alice's grand-granddaughter! It
is impossible not to feel an instinctive flow of sympathy towards the
descendant of the young girl who inspired Lewis Carroll to create the heroine
of Alice in Wonderland, and the continuation of her adventures.
Vanessa Tait
(Wiltshire, 1971), grand-granddaughter of Alice Liddell (Westminster, 1852), is
her family's representative and the author of a novel that will be published
next July, The Looking Glass House, about the relationship between Carroll and
the ten year-old girl – a relationship that has been written about
prolifically. The story is told from the point of view of the governess, Miss
Prickett, also a real-life character. Tait has participated in the Kosmopolis
festival in the Barcelona Center of Contemporanean Culture (CCCB), that has
commemorated the 150 years of the literary birth of Alice.
“I have delved
into the family's memories and history to write the novel, that has taken ten
years of research”, explains Tait, a nice, attractive young woman with an
absolutely not-Victorian appearance, but of dreamy brown eyes and a long braid.
“I have turned the facts into fiction, and have told them from the perspective
of the governess, a naïve woman that was used by Carroll in order to get close
to the Liddell children”.
Tait says that
Carroll (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson nom de plume) had a dark, “very
weird” side, and she is sure that there were more than innocent feelings in the
relationship between the writer and Alice. “Carroll was incredibly charming but
also very scheming – he entertained the children and seduced the governess”.
What does the
family say about that situation? “My family holds private letters from which
can be deduced that Lewis Carroll wanted to marry Alice, though he never
proposed. In one of this letters, from the older sister, Lorina, to Alice, when
they both were old women, it is mentioned that the writer was too affectionate
towards Alice and sat her on his knees. Worried, my grand-grandmother's mother
talked to Carroll about this matter, and Carroll got angry and offended and
stopped frequenting the Liddells. This issue is open to many interpretations”.
All right, but,
what does Vanessa Tait believe? “I believe that he did, that he loved Alice,
that he aspired to marry her – it his speculated that he asked for her hand in
marriage when she was eleven and he was thirty-one –, but he never trespassed
the boundaries”.
Our boundaries, or
Victorian? “It is true that our boundaries are much more severe as far as a
relationship with minors is concerned. But I would venture that Lewis Carroll
never trespassed neither of the two”.
What does she
think about Carroll's hobby of photographing naked young girls? Even if he was
a friend of the Prerraphaelites, nowadays it sounds like paedophilia to us...
Tait thinks over her answer. “I think he was a weird man, very repressed, with
an exceptional interest in young girls that he turned into her ideal child-friends,
but I don't think he would go any further. Be that as it may, Alice always
remembered him with affection”.
How does it feel
to be Alice's grand-granddaughter? “It's fantastic, I'm very lucky. I think I
have won a genetic lottery, and it's very inspiring”. Do weird things happen to
her? She laughs aloud. “Definitely, such a thing influences you to an artistic
life”. When she reads Alice's adventures, does she feel some affinity with the
character, something kind of familiar? “I think that what really makes the
books fantastic is that we all feel identificated with Alice upon reading
them”.
Alice's
grand-granddaughter points that the secret of the novels, that she personally
adores, is that they accurately show the amazement that supposes for a child to
enter the adult world. “They are true initiation stories, that's the key.
Furthermore, the author's interest for logic problems and everything grotesque
adds more fascinating layers to the stories”. Maybe the ingestion of some
psychoactive substances has been of influence in the creation of that weird
world? “I don't think that Lewis Carroll ate any mushrooms, but it is possible
that he took opium, that, back in the day, was prescribed as a medicine”.
Alice's
grand-granddaughter says she would not hesitate to open her house's door to
Lewis Carroll, despite being such a complex man. “I'd thank him for writing a
book that changed my life and I'd invite him to a cup of tea”.
Before we part, I
offer her a box of biscuits named “Magic Creams” that I have bought in a
convenience store. Just to see what happens. He finds them very funny, but does
not take them. “I usually give someone biscuits to try before I do”, she
jokes."
By Jacinto Antón.
Translation by
Irene Martínez. Thanks to Jezabel Agulló for her helpful advice.
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